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#45 - Actor William R. Moses

Length: 39s

William R. Moses is one of the most prolific TV and film actors of his generation. His hundreds of credits on shows ranging from Castle, CSI: Miami, and Mad Men to NCIS, The Mentalist, and Mind Games—have established him as one of Hollywood’s true leading men.

You’ll hear Bill describe his unique family origins—his mother was actress Marion McCargo, his stepfather was the hugely popular U.S. Congressman Alphonso Bell, Jr.—and how he was “discovered” at a Hollywood party by an agent who soon had him in front of the cameras in a Sprite commercial.

Bill shares stories about ducking out of college classes to attend auditions and sneaking into acting classes where he began to get some idea of what this “acting thing” is really all about. By the time he was a senior, he was cast opposite Demi Moore in Choices, a roll that eventually brought him to the attention of a casting director who thought he was perfect for the role of “Cole Gioberti” in a television pilot that eventually became the mega-hit CBS-TV series Falcon Crest.

As he describes his experience working alongside such talents as Robert Foxworth, Susan Sullivan, and Jane Wyman, you’ll hear some candid “insider” stories about life on the Falcon Crest set, as well as the reasons Bill left the show in the middle of its 9-year run. The conversation then turns to how he transitioned into a major leading role in the classic romantic comedy Mystic Pizza with Julia Roberts, and then going on to co-star with Raymond Burr in more than a dozen Perry Mason movies. When you hear his fond recollections of working with Burr, you’ll find out how he was “born in the wrong year”

For anyone interested in what it takes to become a working actor, and how to sustain a successful Hollywood career, this is an interview that is truly a lesson in “getting past the hard parts and loving the craft.”


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#43 - TV Director Michael Zinberg

Length: 51s

In this very personal and candid conversation with Bob and Suzanne, you’ll hear their longtime friend Michael Zinberg as he share the candid details of a professional history that spans four decades and multiple career paths.  Michael is unique in the world of Hollywood, laying claim to hundreds of major directing, writing, and producing credits, as well as to two stints as a network executive.


Today, Michael is among Hollywood’s most enduring and prolific writer-producer-directors, with a track record of creating hit shows that has earned him multiple Emmy nominations and the prestigious Directors Guild Award for Outstanding Achievement in Dramatic Television for his groundbreaking work on Quantum Leap.



Michael—ever the consummate story teller—brings his innate good humor to the conversation as he talks about coming from San Antonio, Texas brimming with ambitions of big-time Hollywood success...and how he has actually achieved it.  You’ll hear about his first job as a CBS-TV usher, how he broke into a dynamic prime-time “above the line” career as an Associate Producer and eventually transitioned into comedy writing and directing with The Bob Newhart Show and The Mary Tyler Moore Show at legendary MTM Productions.



Zinberg has directed in every television format and genre, from half-hour sitcoms to hour dramas, to mini-series and movies.  He’s worked with the entire pantheon of Hollywood celebrities on shows like Taxi, Lou Grant, Family Ties, Everybody Loves Raymond, The Practice, JAG, and Newhart.  Still in non-stop demand as a seasoned, “go-to” director, Michael continues working on major hit shows, including NCIS, Lost, The Unit, The Blacklist, and The Good Wife.



Michael Zinberg reveals the extraordinary work ethic behind his remarkable success, and lights the way for anyone hoping to build a meaningful Hollywood career.  It's a conversation you'll want to be part of.



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#42 - Producer Hawk Koch

Length: 58s


Look up “Hollywood Royalty” in your Webster’s Dictionary, and you just might find the name and face of Oscar Nominee, Golden Globe Winner, and movie producer Hawk Koch on the page.


In this podcast interview with Bob & Suzanne, Hawk talks about his unique childhood on movie sets with his father, Howard W. Koch, one of the most prominent film producers of his generation.  Hawk describes how school vacations spent on movie sets led to his passion for film making and to an inspiring career working with legendary directors like Robert Aldrich, Sidney Pollack, Paul Mazursky, and Robert Wise. 


It wasn’t long before he evolved from being “the kid” on Hollywood soundstages to getting hired as the production assistant on Sidney Pollack’s This Property Is Condemned, where he quickly proved himself as someone who could “get it done.”


After a stint as a rock & roll road manager for iconic performers like The Supremes and The Dave Clark Five, Hawk returned to Hollywood as an assistant director on movies destinedto become : Rosemary’s Baby, Chinatown, and Barefoot in the Park.  Hawk candidly recalls how he rose through the Hollywood ranks to work closely with iconic film stars like Warren Beatty, Jack Nicholson, Jessica Lange, Mickey Rourke, Faye Dunaway, Paul Newman, Dustin Hoffman, Robert Redford, and Kirk Douglas.


You’ll hear how Hawk’s passion for the entertainment business continued to propel him up through the ranks as the producer of dozens of critical and box office hits, including The Pope of Greenwich Village, Heaven Can Wait, Wayne’s World, Primal Fear...and the list goes on.


Hardly resting on his laurels Hawk Koch works hard to "pay it forward" as he vigorously supports the Hollywood film industry. He’s currently President Emeritus of the Producers Guild of America, and has served on the Board of the National Film Preservation Foundation.  Hawk most recently served as 2012-13 President of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, and continues to produce the movies we love.



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#41 - TV Writer Philip Taylor

Length: 1s

Philip Taylor has a unique show business history and track record. In this podcast interview, he describes his journey from a childhood in rural England to Hollywood sound stages, with dozens of writing and producing credits on some of TV’s most memorable hit shows.

Taylor talks about his years of studying at London’s Royal Academy of Dramatic Arts, and recalls the thrill of performing Shakespeare on the international stage.  He then shares his experience “being in the right place at the right time”, and how he began writing scripts for hit TV shows.

Not many TV writers have the ability to move between comedy and dramatic genres, but Philip has multiple  credits on both sides of the fence.   He’s written for shows as varied as . “Mork & Mindy”, “Murder, She Wrote”, “Eight is Enough”, “CPO Sharkey”, “Good Times”, and “Knight Rider”, demonstrating an unusual ability to move between half-hour sitcoms, hour dramas, two-hour longform TV movies, and feature films. 

With great humor and plenty of behind-the-scenes details, Philip tells Bob and Suzanne how he wrote the cult movie classic “Lust in the Dust”, starring Tab Hunter and the legendary Divine. He then describes his four-year stint writing for “The New Zorro” (and acting in an episode on location in Spain), which he quickly followed with multiple scripts for “Highlander” and for Jerry Bruckheimer’s first TV series, “Soldier of Fortune, Inc.”

Now teaching film and television writing at Arizona State University, Philip candidly shares tips that have helped many of his students break into the Hollywood mainstream.   If you’ve got your sights set on writing for movies or TV, this conversation with Philip Taylor is “required listening”.



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#39 - Stuart Benjamin: Oscar Nominated Producer & Grammy Winner

Length: 52s

Stuart Benjamin—a longtime family friend of Bob and Suzanne—shares the highlights and deteails of his award-winning career as a major film, television, music, and theatrical producer in this revealing podcast interview.



You’ll hear Stuart describe the path of a Harvard-educated lawyer who juggled two careers at once, working his “day job” as a partner in a prominent Los Angeles law firm and eventually discovering his true passion as the producer of high-quality motion picture and musical entertainment. 



With college classmate and film director Taylor Hackford, Stuart formed New Visions, Inc. and produced some of the most memorable feature films of his generation.   Their first short film production, Teenage Father, earned Hackford an Oscar and threw open the gates of Hollywood studios as the pair delivered critical and commercial hits like Against All Odds, White Nights, La Bamba, and Everybody’s All-American, working with stellar casts that included Jeff Bridges, Rachel Ward, Mikhail Baryshnikov, Helen Mirren, Lou Diamond Phillips, Dennis Quaid, and Jessica Lang.



Stuart describes the Hollywood studio development process and the growth of New Visions into a creative powerhouse that went on to release another half-dozen movies and award-winning soundtrack albums. 


The natural outcome of Stuart’s lifelong passion for music—with music playing a central role in the success of a majority of his movies—was a long and lasting friendship with the legendary Ray Charles.  You’ll hear Stuart describe his relentless, decade-long struggle to produce Ray, which earned six Academy Award nominations, including his own for Best Picture.  The soundtrack for Ray won Stuart a Grammy Award and sales of more than 4,000,000 albums.



Turning his attention to live theatrical production, Stuart discusses differences between working in movies, television, and theater.  With his production of Louis & Keely Live breaking records in Los Angeles, he’s currently developing the compelling story of Stax Records in collaboration with soul singer Tasha Taylor, daughter of the iconic blues legend Johnny Taylor.



Stuart Benjamin has built a career in the mold of Hollywood’s great impresarios...and he generously shares the secrets of his success for us all to follow.



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#38 - Actor David Selby

Length: 1s

Listen in as Bob & Suzanne talk to actor David Selby about his life and starring roles on stage, screen, and television.  

David describes his childhood in rural West Virginia, and his discovery of “something inside” that drove him to become a serious student of acting.

Having appeared in more than 70 stage productions—including starring roles in everything from Oklahoma, to The Crucible, to last year’s A Delicate Balance—David’s theatre work has been the backbone of an unparalleled TV and movie career.

His first major television role as “Quentin” on Dark Shadows made David a huge fan favorite.  From there, he jumped into feature films, starring in The Super Cops and playing opposite Barbra Streisand in Up the Sandbox.  Always in demand by Hollywood casting directors, David’s hundreds of acting credits include The Waltons, Police Woman, Raise the Titanic, Mad Men, The Social Network, and the soon-to-be-released Equals, with Twilight’s Kristen Stewart.

When David joined Bob on Falcon Crest to play opposite Jane Wyman, he earned an international following that continues to this day.  David talks about making “Richard Channing” an unforgettable character with unusual depth and complexity, which he followed up with as “Xavier Trout” on Soldier of Fortune.

Beginning his acting career as far from Hollywood as you can imagine, David Selby has worked with directors like Tim Burton, David Fincher, and Ridley Scott...and with actors from Jeff Bridges and Jason Robards to Barbra Streisand and Julia Roberts.

While scaling the heights of show business, David has also managed to author ten books of memoirs, plays, poems, and novels. David Selby, an actor who has remained devoted to his family and rooted in his West Virginia origins, is the ultimate “Hollywood Renaissance Man.”



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#36 - Dennis Sands - Multi-Oscar Nominated Scoring Mixer

Length: 49s

This interview features acclaimed film scoring mixer Dennis Sands as he talks about his rise to the highest ranks of “behind the scenes” Hollywood legends.

Dennis describes his first gig working at MGM Recording Studios as we learn the true meaning of “working your way up from the bottom” and of being in the right place at the right time...if only by always being there. 

As Dennis tells his story of becoming a recording engineer for major artists like Ella Fitzgerald, Oscar Peterson, Count Basie, Big Joe Turner, and Sarah Vaughn, and then to his founding Hollywood’s Group IV Recording Studio you’ll learn how dedication to his craft, and “being a nice person” have been the keys to his amazing career.

You can actually feel the love Dennis has for his work when he describes the collaborative energy he shares with composers like Alan Silvestri, John Williams, and Danny Elfman...as well as with film directors like Tim Burton and Robert Zemeckis.

The conversation touches upon some of the more than 300 major feature films to his credit, and you’ll hear the appreciation Dennis has for his four Academy Award nominations (Forrest Gump, Back to the Future, Contact, The Polar Express), as well as for his multiple Emmy and Grammy nominations and wins.

Dennis Sands truly opens up professionally and personally, sharing his excitement over the cutting-edge installation of Dolby’s Atmos in his Sound Waves SB studio, the only one of its kind.  For those who hope to learn the keys to the success in Hollywood and how to follow in his footsteps, this podcast is pure gold.

After hearing this episode, you’ll agree that the life of Dennis Sands is truly... “an outstanding achievement”.



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#35 - Hollywood Icon Actress Diane McBain

Length: 47s

One of Hollywood’s iconic screen beauties, Diane McBain was headed for major stardom before she had even finished high school.  In this revealing interview, she provides a candid look into her life before, during, and after her years of major film and television stardom.

Raised as a child within sight of Hollywood Boulevard’s klieg lights, Diane quickly went from winning teen beauty contests, acting in neighborhood theater productions, working through high school as a magazine cover girl, her first day on the set of Father Knows Best, and being cast in Ice Palace, a major motion picture starring Richard Burton...all before she was 18 years old!

Diane pulls no punches as she describes life as a Warner Brothers contract player, how she handled the allure of stardom while still finishing high school, and the sacrifices she made for a career that “fell into her lap”.  She talks about her first on-screen kiss and the hectic life of an actress working non-stop on TV series like Maverick, Sugarfoot, Bourbon Street Beat, Surfside 6, 77 Sunset Strip, Batman, and The Man from Uncle (to name only a few of her dozens of shows).

Diane openly discusses the challenges and realities of working as a contract player for a studio that didn’t capitalize on her star power when she had it.  She reflects upon changing audience tastes, the fact that “people move on”, and how she found herself becoming “just a working actress” struggling to succeed in “a very difficult business”.

After starring in classic films like Parrish and Claudelle Inglish (her favorite role), after working with Elvis Presley in Spinout, after three decades of appearances in every TV show from Eight Is Enough to Dallas and General Hospital , Diane has now recently authored Famous Enough in which she tells the complete story of her life and career.  As her longtime friend Tippi Hedren describes it, “This is a book about the real Hollywood...told with truth, humility and lots of humor.”

We agree.  It’s a great book (packed with pictures) and if you’ve got “Hollywood dreams”, you need to listen to this interview...and then read it!



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"Falcon Crest" Superstar Ana Alicia

Length: 1s

This episode features Bob and Suzanne having a free-wheeling up-tempo conversation with "Falcon Crest" actress Ana Alicia, as she holds nothing back in telling her very personal story.

Ana’s story—of a girl born in Mexico, raised in El Paso, educated at Wellesley on full scholarship, and determined to follow her acting dreams even while going to law school—is an inspiring lesson for anyone thinking about a career on stage or in front of the camera.

From her initial creative “break” as a finalist in a grammar school poetry contest, as a teenager she jumped into in school plays and found her true calling as an artist.  She was soon involved in the world of local dinner theater, and while still going to law school (“trying to be practical”) turned the challenge of finding a Hollywood agent on its ear.

She describes her first screen test—and why she wore a casting director’s sweater over her own clothes—and how that propelled her into a starring role on Ryan’s Hope at the age of 20.

This fast-paced conversation reveals Ana’s very real intelligence, commitment to craft, and the personal determination that saw her rocket to national prominence on the cast of CBS-TV’s hit series Falcon Crest by the time she was 25.  (Don’t miss her story about her “sexy” audition for Executive Producer Earl Hamner…)

Ana talks about working with Bob in the role of  “Melissa Agretti” on Falcon Crest during the years he produced the show...and even opens up to Suzanne about what it was like working with the many “hunky guys” (William R. Moses, Lorenzo Lamas, David Selby) on the show.  She pulls no punches in revealing the real-life “drama” behind the scenes of the series, and how network and studio politics, including the constant changes in the writing staff ultimately affected everyone on the show.

Ana talks candidly about the real world of auditions, casting sessions, and working on the sets of more than 30 major TV shows and movies, including The Sacketts, Renegade, Murder, She Wrote, Life Goes On, Moonlighting, Hotel, The Love Boat, B.J. and the Bear, Quincy, The Hardy Boys.  She also shares personal insights into what it’s like performing alongside major stars like Raul Julia, Tom Selleck, Sam Elliott, Jane Wyman, Jack Klugman, Susan Sullivan, Edward James Olmos, James Brolin, and Angela Lansbury.

In telling her story, Ana Alicia gives a compelling lesson in determination, preparation, and the focus it takes to make it as an actor in Hollywood…and the hard choices involved in choosing family and motherhood over a stellar career.

This is an inspiring, educational, and heartfelt conversation…and it’s not to be missed.



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#33 Bruce Sallan: Television Producer, Network Executive, Author, Entrepreneur

Length: 1s

This high-energy conversation tells the story of an ambitious kid with zero show business “connections” who became one of Hollywood’s most prolific and successful television movie producers: Bruce Sallan.



Bruce’s inspiring story takes us from a film class at UCLA and into pitch meetings at the major television networks...then into casting sessions at Hollywood’s biggest studios...and on to film locations around the world with some of the biggest celebrity stars of our time. 



With more than 24 major television movies to his credit—all inspired by his personal commitment to telling the best stories with a redeeming social value—Bruce enjoyed a remarkable 25-year career on the highest rungs of the Hollywood ladder.  He’s one of those rare talents who moved easily between high-level jobs at production companies, movie studios, and television networks. 



In this rapid-fire, free-wheeling conversation, Bruce doesn’t pull any punches as he recalls his work with stars like Bruce Dern, Barbara Hershey, Alan Arkin, Don Johnson, John Forsythe, Dick Van Patten, Betty White, Ron Howard, Mickey Rourke, Lindsay Wagner...and the list goes on!



Bruce Sallan delivers more than just anecdotes here; he talks about the actual “how to” of a Hollywood career, what it takes to really pitch and sell a hot TV project, and how to navigate the treacherous politics of any show business career.



The conversation then turns to Bruce’s dynamic career as an author (The Empty-Nest Road Trip Blues and A Dad’s Point-of-View: We ARE Half the Equation), a nationally-syndicated newspaper columnist, the recognized and outspoken advocate for fatherhood, a leading social media icon, the creator of one of Twitter’s  #DadChat where his weekly “all about dad” Tweet Chat draws thousands of weekly followers.



As the father of two sons, a seasoned and expert skier and unmatched raconteur, Bruce Sallan is uniquely gifted communicator with a great message to share...and he shares it with unmatched intelligence and energy.  This is a conversation NOT to be missed!



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#32 Melissa Sue Anderson - "Little House on the Prairie" Emmy Award Winning Actress & Author

Length: 44s

Melissa Sue Anderson became an internationally-recognized television star at the age of eleven and remains a fan favorite for her long-running portrayal of “Mary Ingalls” on Little House on the Prairie. 

In this revealing and very personal conversation, Melissa shares details of her life as a child actor who broke into the business because—in spite of her confessed shyness—“it sounded like fun”.

Melissa’s innate sense of humor is evident as she shares with Bob and Suzanne the anxieties of auditioning for network executives, producers, and directors…all the while competing with other talented kids like Jodie Foster.   But Melissa apparently had “that special something” that sold well on the tube, because by the time she was cast in her first television role on The Brady Bunch, she had dozens of on-air commercials to her credit.

Throughout the podcast Melissa delivers the impressions of a 10-year old working on Hollywood’s sound stages where she was surprised to find that “things were so fake.”  She describes her many co-stars with amusing candor, and shares memories of those who generously gave her their inside “acting tips”.

Fans of Little House will be intrigued to hear Melissa describe her first meeting with Michael Landon and what it was like competing for the role of “Mary Ingalls”…and ultimately working on the show where she really learned the ropes of working in an ensemble of actors on a hit series.

She also shares her secret to “playing blind”…a technique that served her well as she was cast as a sightless person more than she would have liked.  Melissa then shares her fond memories of working with her “favorite producer” Aaron Spelling and both the joy and disappointment of working on Dark Mansions, Bob’s 2-hour series pilot that fell victim to studio and network politics.

An author (her book The Way I See It is available at Amazon.com), Emmy winner, and member of the Western Performers Hall of Fame--whose favorite acting gig was on The Equalizer--Melissa Sue Anderson’s story is inspiring and instructive.

Listening to Melissa delivers great insights into working with agents, producers, directors…and the unpredictable yet very real value of “luck”.



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#31 David Gray: From The Kinks & Steeley Dan to The Oscars

Length: 55s

From his early days in small town New England as an "electronics nerd", always tinkering with the family record player and stereo receiver, David Gray's professional career began as the guy repairing damaged speakers at the local drive-in movie theater for pocket change piecemeal wages.  David was an entrepreneurial "hippy" in college, promoting campus concerts and booking up-and-coming folk singers and rock bands...who all depended on his sound system technical skills.  While still in college, 19-year old David found himself on a national tour with The Kinks, where one of his jobs was repairing the band's beer-drenched sound gear. In this podcast, you'll learn what it takes to actually make a world-wide Rock & Roll tour a reality, as David recalls his gigs as concert tour sound engineer for Mahuvishnu Orchestra, Steely Dan, Linda Rondstadt, The Kinks, and Frank Zappa's Mothers of Invention. David tips his hat to the live performance talents of  The Beatles and The Rolling Stones, and shares the reason why they were so great in concert. With "life on the road" behind him, David was one of the early engineers drafted by Dolby Sound just as Star Wars put the company on the map.  He then found himself working on movies ranging from Sex, Lies, and Videotape and 200 Motels to mega-hits Die Hard, Flashdance, Footloose, and Predator. Always at the intersection of talent and technology, David has been recognized by The Motion Picture Academy as one of the industry's leading innovators in bringing film sound and music into the 21st Century.   David shares details of the recent introduction of Dolby's Atmos  and true "3D sound" to movie theaters around the world,  and gives genuine inspiration to anyone looking to break into the tech world of "movie sound".


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#30 Paul Petersen: Actor, Singer, Author, Activist

Length: 1s

Bob & Suzanne have a candid and free-wheeling conversation with

Paul Petersen, once a child actor and pop music teen idol,

now a prominent social activist and prolific novelist, and the

driving force behind "A Minor Consideration" working on

behalf of young performers everywhere.


Breaking into show business as one of the original

Mousketeers on Disney’s Mickey Mouse Club, Petersen went on to

a co-starring role on one of the most iconic television series of all time,

The Donna Reed Show, playing what he describes as

“the classic gap-toothed wisecracking younger brother”.


Paul recalls the professional acting lessons he learned performing

opposite movie greats Cary Grant and Sophia Loren in Houseboat,

and then from Emmy-winner Carl Betz and Oscar-winner Donna Reed

on The Donna Reed Show. 

He then shares the gritty real-world of Hollywood studio casting

when The Donna Reed Show went off the air after eight years,

and he suddenly went from young star to struggling actor. 


Articulate and painfully honest, Paul pulls no punches,

telling his story with compelling intelligence and honesty. 

You won’t forget hearing about the day that Hollywood legend

Mickey Rooney literally showed up unannounced at his doorstep

to give him the keys to a successful and fulfilling life.


What follows is a story of strength, stamina, and

personal transformation.  The lessons Paul Petersen shares

on this podcast should be heard by every “stage mother”

and by all talented kids with dreams of

making “the bigtime” in Hollywood.


This is the story of a "kid with talent" who became

an iconic television star and international teen idol...

and then walked into the halls of academe and a career as

a novelist and social activist.  It's a tale as dramatic and compelling as

any of Paul's TV and movie roles...and it’s rooted in

the bottom-line reality of show business.


If you’ve ever worked in the entertainment industry...or if

you have dreams of someday breaking into television,

movies, or music at the professional level, this interview with

Paul Petersen is no to be missed! 


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#29 Actress Shelley Fabares

Length: 50s

From television, to movies, to hit records...Shelley Fabares has

done it all, and she continues to do so with unmatched

grace, humility, and instinctive talent. 

One of Hollywood’s most enduring and  beloved leading ladies,

Shelley openly shares the details of her childhood as a

department store “fashion model”, and how that led to her first

television appearance at the age of 10.

In constant onscreen demand from an early age, she appeared in more

than 50 television series, from early classics like Annie Oakley to

her breakthrough role on The Donna Reed Show.

Shelley shares memories of her eight years playing “Mary Stone”

and working closely with TV legends Donna Reed, Paul Petersen,

and Carl Betz, and then describes the unique experience of

becoming an international teen idol with the release of

her #1 hit recording of Johnny Angel. 

As the only female co-star to appear in three of Elvis Presley's

movies (Clambake, Girl Happy and Spinout), Shelley describes

what it was like meeting “the King” for the first time...and how

she still thinks of him as her “favorite leading man”.

Shelley then goes on to recount her adult life as an actress on

shows like Love, American Style, The Rockford Files, and Fantasy Island

and her professional joy working opposite James Caan in the era’s

most memorable television movie, Brian’s Song.

This is an intimate, open-hearted dialogue with a legendary actress as

she shares the realities of Hollywood’s type-casting in the Sixties

while giving us a real sense of the personal and professional values

that brought her years of success on major hits like

One Day at a Time and Coach. 

It's an engaging conversation with a truly

classy lady as she reveals the personal side of

the Hollywood "actor's life" that you won’t want to miss!


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#28 "The Equalizer" Creator and Television Producer Michael Sloan

Length: 43s

Michael Sloan was born into a British theatrical family and raised amid

the smell of greasepaint and the sound of applause.


Bob and Suzanne’s conversation with Michael starts with his youth as a budding actor

and his early adventures writing and producing his own independent feature films. 

Michael’s story then demonstrates his unique creative instincts as he describes how

he got his first major primetime television break writing for Columbo, a credit that

propelled him toward a meteoric career path at Universal City Studios and beyond.


Sloan’s credits soon ranged from BJ & The Bear (where he gave Bob his first primetime writing gig)

and Quincy to McCloud, Battlestar Gallactica, Sword of Justice, and The Return of The Man From Uncle...

to name only a few of hundreds!  His was the producing and writing “juice” behind

unforgettable shows like Kung Fu: The Legend Continues and

the contemporary Alfred Hitchcock Presents.


And as if his hundreds of writing and producing credits weren’t enough, Michael was also

the creator of one of television’s most highly-acclaimed suspense and action series,

The Equalizer—now a major motion picture starring Denzel Washington

set to appear in theaters worldwide.


Almost as “throwaway” in the interview, Michael reveals that his wife—actress

Melissa Sue Anderson of Little House on the Prairie fame—first suggested Denzel Washington

in the role of The Equalizer’s “Robert McCall” a full seven years before the movie

went into production…and then we learn that Michael’s new novel The Equalizer

has just debuted in bookstores everywhere.


With great wit and humor, the lessons Michael Sloan shares in this podcast are

truly bricks of gold on the road to Hollywood success! 


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#27 Producing "by the numbers" with Dennis Brown

Length: 49s

Suzanne and Bob reveal the latest news about their new book, Where Hollywood Hides: Santa Barbara Celebrities in Paradise,

and then talk to award-winning Hollywood producer Dennis Brown.

Dennis tells a uniquely personal story that saw him go from “small town boy” to a studio accounting department,

and then to the pinnacle of Hollywood success...with career highlights along the way that include

getting hired by Grant Tinker (who would later build MTM Productions with his wife Mary Tyler Moore),

surviving the destruction of United Artists Studio by  Michael Cimino's Heaven’s Gate,

and eventually being nominated for an Emmy.

During the course of his amazing career, Dennis has supervised multiple Academy Award and

Emmy Award-winning projects, has shot film on every continent on the planet. 

The major stars he’s worked with include Jerry Seinfeld, Lindsay Wagner, Farrah Fawcett,

Liza Minelli, Tom Selleck, Burt Lancaster, Peter Fonda, Leonard Nimoy...

and  in this interview, you’ll learn which actor holds a special place in his heart.


While sharing the one-work "key" to becoming a successful independent movie producer,

in a candid and emotional moment Dennis reveals what has truly mattered most to him

in building his career.  Throughout the interview, you’ll hear what it takes to plan a Hollywood career and

how “the Hollywood dream” can become a reality.


It’s an easy-going intimate conversation about an incredible life working

behind the scenes in Hollywood...and one you won’t forget!


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#26 "Brady Bunch" Producer Lloyd Schwartz: Hollywood Career Tips and How to Deal with Actors

Length: 55s

Suzanne and Bob talk about their new book, Where Hollywood Hides: Santa Barbara,

and are then joined by Lloyd Schwartz, one of TV’s most prolific writer-producers for

stories of his long and successful career in Hollywood.

Starting as a standup comic (with a member of The Black Panthers as his working partner),

Lloyd recalls selling his first network script while still in college and describes the confidence

and writing skills that made him Hollywood’s youngest television producer.

With TV writing credits ranging from Harper Valley PTA and Baywatch to movies like

The Invisible Woman and A Very Brady Christmas, Lloyd was well prepared when he

became the producer of one of television’s most iconic series of all time, The Brady Bunch.

Lloyd doesn’t pull any punches as he describes his notion of “happy projects” and reveals

his secret to building a lasting writing career and delivers a realistic and practical step-by-step

strategy for breaking into the studio system. 

“If you do exactly what I’m saying, you’ll get into the business”.

Throughout the conversation, Lloyd shares stories of his favorite actors, talks about

what it was like moving up through the ranks from dialogue coach to producer—eventually

becoming a network executive—and then to writing America’s first live dinner theatre plays.

It’s a high-energy inspirational interview peppered with rock-solid tips for surviving in Hollywood,

including Lloyd’s personal mantra “The phone will never ring.  You have to make it happen.”

Lloyd Schwartz has a unique and inspiring story, and if you want

“the keys to making it in Hollywood”, you’ll want to hear this podcast.




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#25 Producing Movies & TV with Actor-Producer Jimmy Hawkins

Length: 48s

After his childhood appearance as "Tommy Bailey" in Frank Capra's It's a Wonderful Life 

and an incredible 500 acting credits alongside stars like Spencer Tracy, Katharine Hepburn,

Sally Field, Shelly Fabares, Jimmy Stewart, Donna Reed, Rick Nelson, and Elvis Presley,

Hawkins grew restless co-starring as "America's favorite boyfriend and sidekick". 

He wanted more out of his Hollywood career...and he went out and got it.

Turning away from acting, Jimmy Hawkins set out to “remake” himself and soon became

one of Hollywood’s most entrepreneurial and commercially successful independent film and television producers.

You’ll hear how Jimmy navigated the shark-infested waters of Hollywood power-brokers and

deal-makers to help finance and produce Evel Knievel with George Hamilton, and the thrill of

the movie’s star-studded premier at Grauman’s Chiinese Theater that turned

a small independent film into a 25-million dollar hit.

Not resting on his laurels, Jimmy went on to create and produce hit films like  Scout’s Honor starring

the young Gary Coleman, Don’t Look Back: The Story of Leroy “Satchel” Page with Lou Gossett Jr.,

and Love Leads the Way, starring Timothy Bottoms. 

He reveals why each of his movie or television projects has projected positive values, the best in

human nature, and personal redemption...

and the keys to his ongoing personal and critical success.

With unmatched creative instincts, Jimmy has the uncanny ability to transcend genres,

formats, and media.  After creating and producing Motown Returns to the Apollo, he soon jumped into

the publishing world to author no less than five best selling books targeting

the everlasting appeal of Frank Capra’s It’s a Wonderful Life.

This is a conversation you won't forget as Jimmy Hawkins shares the genuine secrets to

producing both movies and television projects in Hollywood.


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#24 Garner Simmons: TV & Film Writer and Sam Peckinpah Historian

Length: 1s

Garner Simmons—television and feature film screenwriter—joins Bob McCullough and

Suzanne Herrera McCullough for a faced-paced conversation focused upon

the twists and turns of his Hollywood writing career.

With “writing in the blood”, Garner tells his unique story of breaking into show business while

working on his PhD by writing the definitive biography of legendary movie director Sam Peckinpah. 

With Peckinpah: A Portrait in Montage as his calling card, Garner began climbing the rungs of

the Hollywood career ladder by following his personal mantra: “keep writing”.

Simmons reveals how winning a studio screenplay contest first brought him to the attention of

mega-agents and gave him the courage to leave Chicago for Hollywood...only to discover

that agents don’t always deliver on their promises.

Once he was in Hollywood and hearing the frequent advice “to forget this business and go back home”,

Garner did what he does best: he kept writing.  You’ll hear his story of  unmatched “chutzpah”,

determination, and the work ethic that helped him create his own “breaks”.

Garner talks about working as Story Editor in the early seasons of Falcon Crest,

and the credits that quickly followed as writer, story consultant, and producer on shows like

Yellow Rose, “V”, Spencer for Hire, Buck James, and Poltergeist.

As a writer of unparalleled versatility, Simmons has written for all genres and transitioned from

TV series to longform movies (A Rare Breed, Miracle Landing), wrote the early drafts of

The Last Samurai (starring Tom Cruise), and currently has

multiple feature films in development.

More than just telling his own story, this quick-tempo conversation with Garner Simmons 

reveals the hard truth about working with Hollywood agents, delivers valuable career advice,

and is truly a lesson in finding “the keys to success in show business”!


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#23 Jerry London: Famed Director of Major Television Movies & Mini-series

Length: 1s

Bob and Suzanne interview one of Hollywood’s most esteemed  directors, Jerry London.  With hundreds of primetime television series, movies, and mega-miniseries to his credit, Jerry tells how he broke into show business as an apprentice film editor on I Love Lucy, and what it was like "paying dues" working on The Untouchables and The Danny Thomas Show. 

Jerry has great stories about working closely with Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz, including his "day at the races" with Hollywood stars betting and winning on longshots.

Jerry describes his early directing gigs on shows like Hogan’s Heroes, Happy Days, and Love, American Style, where he made a daring creative decision that put him in the limelight and propelled his career forward onto nearly every hit show in Hollywood, including  The Rockford Files,  Kojak, Hawaii Five-0, The Six Million Dollar Man, and Barreta.

The biggest mini-series of all time!

From directing TV series non-stop, Jerry then graduated to movies and miniseries, ultimately becoming the creative force behind such memorable productions as The Scarlet and the Black, Chicago Story, Women in White, Escapade, Wheels, and the longest, most critically acclaimed miniseries of its time, Shogun.

Jerry London’s behind-the-scenes stories, his advice to

aspiring filmmakers, and his personal impressions of

the many stars he worked with (Burt Reynolds, Doris Day,

Angie Dickenson, Rock Hudson, Lee Remick,

James Garner, Richard Burton, Clint Eastwood,

Richard Chamberlain), make this an episode

you won’t forget!




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#22 Behind the Scenes with "Wolfman Jack"

Length: 28s

The episode opens with an audio-clip tease of things to come...

and if you’ve never heard of “Radio XERB”, you’re about to get

a real lesson in the early days of Rock n’ Roll!

Suzanne opens the show with “movie news” about this season’s classic sci-fi

monster flick Godzilla starring Ken Watanabe (Suzanne’s fave) and Bryan Cranston (Bob’s fave)

revealing the tongue-in-cheek contemporary “take” on it.

Bob then jumps into the heart of the episode with his questionable vocal impression of

one of the world’s true broadcasting originals, the inimitable

Wolfman Jack. 

After sharing their personal experiences with the early world of “outlaw radio”,

Suzanne and Bob deliver some amazing sound clips from The Wolfman himself and his

professional inspiration, early Rock ‘n Roll’s most powerful and popular

disc jockey (before he got busted for his involvement in assorted “payola” schemes),

the incredibly fast-talking “Moondog” Allan Freed.

Uniquely shrouded in well-planned “mystery”, Wolfman Jack’s persona

was first revealed to the world in George Lucas’ classic American Graffiti.

Bob and Suzanne share even more about this gravely-voiced legend as they describe

what it was like working side-by-side with him in a fast-paced studio environment

perpetually clouded in marijuana smoke.

Throughout the episode, classic music clips from The Miracles, KC & the Sunshine Band,

blues legend Howlin’ Wolf, and The Rolling Stones help tell the story of

the era’s most iconic, innovative, and well-loved radio star...as we

pull back the curtain to reveal the real man (and his actual name)  behind

Wolfman Jack.

In the words of Wolfman Jack himself, time to “get your boogie on, baby!”


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#20 Acting & Singing with Ross Borden

Length: 36s

It’s a free-wheeling interview as Ross Borden discusses Detroit origins

that led to an onstage vaudeville childhood of singing, dancing, and

making false eyelashes for nightclub strippers...and how

he became (of all things) a professional dentist.


How Ross stepped away from a prosperous 20-year dental career to

follow his true creative passions right into the major Hollywood studios

as a “go to” guest actor is truly the stuff of Hollywood Dreams.  

With credits on shows like Kung Fu, Simon & Simon, Falcon Crest,Hawaii 5-0,

and T.J. Hooker, Ross knows what he’s talking about as he shares candid personal

memories of David Carradine, Robert Wagner, Jacqueline Bisset,

and the Hollywood “casting couch”.


With three beautifully-produced CDs proving his singing and performing

prowess, Ross generously shares advice for those with ambitions to enter the

highly-charged world of professional music and film acting. 


This is the episode anyone who wants to become a working actor

should hear as Ross Borden tells us what it really takes to succeed in “the biz”.

should hear as Ross Borden tells us what it really takes to succeed in “the biz”.


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#19 The Acting Life with Jimmy Hawkins

Length: 1s

Jimmy Hawkins' career is the stuff of Hollywood legend.

From his appearance as "Tommy Bailey" in Frank Capra's It's a Wonderful Life to acting alongside stars like Spencer Tracy,

Katharine Hepburn, Sally Field, Shelly Fabares, Jimmy Stewart, Donna Reed, Rick Nelson,

and Elvis Presley, Hawkins reveals the secrets of his success as

"America's favorite boyfriend and sidekick".

In a career spanning more than three decades, Jimmy became the "go-to" actor who

brought unique energy and comedy timing to unforgettable characters that took him from child star to

series regular on such classics as Leave It to Beaver, The Donna Reed Show, Annie Oakley, 

and The Adventures of Ozzie & Harriet.

This is a conversation you won't forget as Jimmy shares stories of casting calls at MGM and Paramount Studios,

and describes the chain of events that led him to co-star with Elvis Presley in Spinout and Girl Happy.

You'll hear what it was like to work with both Elvis and Ricky Nelson, Jimmy's "inside secret"to

dating Hollywood actresses, and why Jimmy turned down Woody Allen's offer of a major film role.

This is one conversation you won't forget...with more to come in Part 2!



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#18 "Zorro" - Behind the scenes in Hollywood and in Madrid

Length: 39s

Suzanne opens this episode with her “shout out” to evergreen actress Betty White

for yet another birthday milestone and shares her anticipation

of the forthcoming Academy Awards.

She then candidly reacts to director Gabriela Cowperthwaite’s Blackfish, the documentary

that details the history of SeaWorld Orlando trainers

and their work with the killer whale Tilikum.

Moving past zoological politics, Bob and Suzanne then share

 their experiences shooting Zorro in Madrid, Spain starring Duncan Regehr

and Henry Darrow.  Bob details the initial casting process and

the creative satisfaction of working  on such a classic character

with nearly total creative freedom.

Bob remarks that Suzanne wrote one of the show’s “scariest”

characters into an episode, and compliments Executive Producers

Gary Goodman and Barry Rosen on their well-oiled

production machine, while Suzanne seems to snicker at the

fact that Bob is obviously afraid of horses.

Remembering guest stars Adam West (Batman), Andre The Giant,

Jesse Ventura, and Daniel Craig (James Bond), Bob tips his hat to

 Story Editor and writer Philip Taylor...while Suzanne reminds Bob

that what he seemed most intrigued by were the topless sunbathers

he pretended to ignore at the beach...


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#17 "Star Trek: The Next Generation" - Behind the Scenes - Part 2

Length: 32s

Suzanne opens this episode with some brief gushing over

Chris Hemsworth in Ron Howard’s Rush, a film she and Bob

both recommend this year along with Dallas Buyers Club.


After mentioning the ongoing Hollywood-Santa Barbara

connection—with a nod to the Santa Barbara International Film

Festival soon coming to their neighborhood—Bob admits that he

 may not have been the “perfect fit” as writer-producer

on Star Trek: The Next Generation.


Bob confesses his frustration with the “downward spiral of politics”

among the show’s executives and producers, and reveals

his ironic point of view about writing for one of

television’s cultural holy grails. 


With a focus on the show’s characters and storylines,

Bob’s year as a writer-producer was colored by

his irreverent take on all things technical...to the point that

he wrote Samaritan Snare, an episode featuring an alien culture

that was the antithesis of The Star Fleet.


Giving a couple of dialogue quotes from the episode,

Bob points to an old grammar school joke he employed

in the script, and admits to simply “having some fun” among

all the behind-the-scenes drama on the Paramount Studios lot.


Suzanne then points out the remarkable connection between

I Love Lucy and the original Star Trek, following that up with

the announcement of Bob’s recent award from the Writers Guild

for having been named for “outstanding television writing”

on the show...and a moment later teases Bob with “where’s the money?”


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#16 "Star Trek: The Next Generation" - Behind The Scenes - Part 1

Length: 39s

Suzanne starts the episode with a “local’s view” of Oprah Winfrey’s recent

“yard sale” at The Santa Barbara Polo Club just down the road from the

podcast recording studio. 


After Bob dodges her questions about “what’s happening with your face?”,

he describes returning to the studio where he was once a “gopher”,

as a writer-producer of Paramount Television’s huge syndicated hit

Star Trek: The Next Generation.


With never-before revealed details of his Rolls-Royce ride and

3-martini lunch with Gene Roddenberry, Bob recalls

the rapid turnover of writers, producers, and  executives on ST:TNG,

which became a hugely successful syndicated series hit in spite of

the downward spiral of internal staff and studio politics.


Bob pulls no punches in describing his meetings with members

of the show’s cast, to the point where Suzanne says “What a mess!”

Caught in the middle of what he describes as “Shakespearean complexity”

on the show, Bob reveals the secret of surviving on the staff of

any hit television series.


He then describes his process for writing credible

science fiction in pursuit of the Star Trek vision, and provides 

the behind-the-scenes motivation for his script

The Icarus Factor...in which he actually tried to kill off

the captain of The Enterprise!


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#15 How NOT to Produce a Television Series: The Disaster of "Ohara"

Length: 39s

Suzanne begins by creating some mystery and reveals secrets as she talks about her new bathing suit,

today’s generation of pampered Hollywood pets, why The Wizard of Oz’s “Toto” was

envied by the “munchkins”, and then refers to the new book she and Bob

are working on...but won’t reveal the title!


The conversation turns to Bob’s experiences as Supervising Producer on Ohara,

a Warner Bros. TV series that starred Pat Morita of The Karate Kid fame.

Bob reveals the difficulties in writing and producing a cop show for the former “Mr. Miyagi”

with a vague, constantly-changing franchise...a challenge made all the more difficult

by a phalanx of bickering producers, studio chiefs, and network executives

ranging from future Oscar-winner Brian Grazer to a Keith Richards look-and-act-alike.


Even with all the behind-the-scenes drama, Bob remembers the fun of writing

great cop action scripts alongside L.A.P.D. Homicide Detective (and future Assistant L.A. Mayor)

Joe Gunn, while casting future superstars like Brandon Lee, Benicio del Toro,

and Cuba Gooding, Jr. in routine “day player” roles.


Those casting stories lead Bob to recall his friendship with Bruce Lee long before

Enter The Dragon turned him into an international action superstar.   Bob even details his

eyewitness account of Bruce Lee’s on-the-set humility and a display physical power

that provides plenty of contrast to his experience on Ohara


It may have been a case of “too many chefs in the kitchen” on Ohara, but

Bob admits that working on the Warner Bros. studio lot—and bumping into people like

Clint Eastwood—made producing the show a true Hollywood Experience.


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#14 Writing - Selling - Producing a Television Pilot

Length: 29s

Suzanne opens discussing Ryan Seacrest’s new reality show “Montecito” and then 

analyzes some hits before reviewing “The Seven Worst Reality Shows” to

ever make it on the air...while Bob shares his passion for

vinyl Rock ‘n Roll record albums.

The conversation moves on to how Bob took advantage of his “inside track”

deal with NBC Productions and his relationship with programming exec

Brandon Tartikoff to pitch and sell a pilot for  Time Out for Dad, which starred

NFL Hall of Famer Dick Butkus and Harriet Nelson.

Bob tells what it was like meeting Chicago Bears linebacker Dick Butkus

for the first time, and then how Butkus held his own as a comedic actor

surrounded by first timers on a movie set. 

Bob recalls his meeting withHarriet Nelson who appeared

in the show...while Suzanne lets it be known that she’s had a lifelong “thing”

for Harriet’s son, famed rocker Ricky Nelson.  We also hear about the

casting process that discovered future TV star Johnny Galecki,

star of the CBS-TV series The Big Bang Theory .

Bob and Suzanne touch upon the fact that Time Out for Dad may

have been ahead of its time, dealing with the challenges faced by a

stay-at-home father married to a wife whose career is on the rise.  They

reminisce about working with Scarface star Paul Shenar on the pilot, as well as

with the veteran crew members whom Bob spent time with, pumping them

for their stories of “Old Hollywood”.

Bob admits to being a “born marketer”, describing the story-point prop shoes

that he shamelessly wrote into the show in hopes of breaking into

the world of  Nike’s Air Jordans, and then turns to the cruel odds of

the TV pilot process as a project goes through the various phases of

story-pitch-script-shoot...and then the dreaded decision-making that follows.

The episode closes with the realities of network programming

changes, as Bob gives his own definition of

“failure” in the world of television.


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#13 Hollywood Casting and Writing Movies

Length: 27s

Suzanne begins with the announcement of a new “Music” category at

www.WhereHollywoodHides.com, and—while reminding us she’s sooo much

younger than Bob—lays claim to being a lifelong Beatles fan. 

For his part, Bob admits that he’s just “a rock-and-roll kind of guy”

and would’ve bet the farm that I Want to Hold Your Hand would never

make the charts.  So much for his musical tastes...


The episode moves on to what Bob himself describes as his “greatest

career failure” while under contract to Aaron Spelling Productions writing and

producing Dark Mansions for ABC-TV.  It’s a tale of classic Hollywood

casting politics as Bob sets the record straight as to exactly why former

movie queen Loretta Young never got the part in the film that eventually

went to Oscar winner Joan Fontaine.


Bob reveals the nature of production and budgets in Spelling’s 1980s-era

Hollywood, as well as the rationale (follow the money!) for the  excessive

proliferation of producer credits seen on Dark Mansions.  With a tip of the hat

to the talents of Linda Purl, Michael York, Melissa Sue Anderson,

Nicollette Sheridan, and director Jerry London, Bob’s confidence in the show

never prepared him for the horrible results of an evening of sneak-preview 

audience testing.  It’s the story of how a “hit movie” with the promise of becoming

a network television series became an instant embarrassment for all...

as well as an immediate career bump for the fool who wrote it (that’d be Bob).


Going from “Golden Boy” to “Bob who?”, and proving the truth of

when you’re hot, your hot, and when you’re not...you’re not,

this episode is a good illustration of the pitfalls to be found on

the Hollywood career path for any writer, actor, producer, or director.


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#12 Suzanne the actress: How she did it!

Length: 34s

Opening this follow-up to the previous episode with an off-the-wall giggling fit,

Bob and Suzanne quickly recover their “professional bearing” and

Suzanne recalls how she broke into the Screen Actors Guild and entered

the world of studio and network auditions.  Listen as Suzanne tells

how the harsh reality of typecasting and constant rejection taught her

just how tough showbiz can be.

From a double-date with Robert DeNiro and "the method" at The Actors Studio,

to a risque bedroom scene with Bill Murray, Suzanne reveals what

"the Hollywood life" was like for a young actress

willing to try anything...once.

From start to finish, there are lessons here for any aspiring actor...

and some bottom line advice for those chasing the dream.


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#11 - Breaking Into Hollywood as an Actress

Length: 31s

From her first days visiting a boyfriend on the set of The Godfather with Francis Ford Coppola and Al Pacino, Suzanne moved quickly from one opportunity to the next and found herself front-and-center at Hollywood’s famed Central Casting Agency.

She soon found herself  in front of the cameras on shows like Quincy, The Six Million Dollar Man, The Incredible Hulk, The Rockford Files, Columbo, Emergency, C.H.I.P.S., and Kojak, to name just a few.

Suzanne also reveals some of the “dark side” of being an attractive female on those sets, as well as her fond memories of working with true professionals like Lee Majors, James Garner and Bill Bixby.

We hear about what was surely her biggest break when Suzanne was working on Fantasy Island as one of several “Lava-Lava Girls”. Suzanne leaves us hanging a bit, promising to tell us next about her always surprising career as an actress…and much more!


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#10 - The Oscars, Aaron Spelling, & "Hollywood Wives"

Length: 29s

Celebrating their milestone 10th episode, Suzanne bathes in the afterglow of

Ben Affleck’s Argo win as Best Motion Picture at the 2013 Academy Awards,

but chastises the show’s producers not having someone on hand to catch

Jennifer Lawrence when she took a tumble on her way to accept her Oscar.

 Suzanne mentions the birthday of an iconic I Love Lucy star,

and Bob recalls being on the Paramount Studios lot with Lucy where

Desi Arnaz reinvented the way sitcoms are shot. 

We then learn about the gloriously indulged life of a writer-producer working

under contract to Aaron Spelling and Suzanne shares details of Spelling’s

background that eventually led him to become the most powerful TV producer in history.

When Spelling handed Bob Jackie Collins’ Hollywood Wives to read,

it was the beginning of an incredible year that had him hob-nobbing with

major showbiz icons like Rod Steiger, Candace Bergin, Robert Stack, Suzanne Somers,

Angie Dickenson, Joanna Cassidy, Stephanie Powers, and the man who

would later become “Hannibal Lecter”, Anthony Hopkins.

Suzanne finally gets Bob to admit that he was a bit of an early

sleaze-meister while astutely drawing the parallel between Hollywood Wives

and today’s Kardashians, proving her theory that little has changed when it comes to

attracting an audience because “it’s all entertainment.”



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#9 "Falcon Crest" Part 2

Length: 40s

Bob & Suzanne share their history on "Falcon Crest" with

fond memories of location shooting in The Napa Valley.

Suzanne reveals details of her friendship with Jane Wyman while

Bob sings the praises of the show's amazing cast including

Susan Sullivan, Bob Foxworth, David Selby, William R. Moses,

Lorenzo Lamas, and a certain Playmate of the Year.

Working with film legend guest stars always brought

surprises...from huge cue cards to a fear of kissing!

The episode wraps up with Bob describing how his work on the

show came to an unexpected end, making a not-so-casual reference

to the head of the studio as...well...a "prick".



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#8 "Falcon Crest" Part 1

Length: 47s

Bob & Suzanne open with the contrast between Barbara Walters'

recent bout with chicken pox and Matt Damon's debut as a standup

comic on "Jimmy Kimmel Live"...which leads to Bob admitting he's too

short for Nicole Kidman while Suzanne slips in yet another fawning comment

about Ben Affleck!

We learn how Bob went from writing "BJ & The Bear" to helping create one of

the most enduring nighttime soaps of all time, "Falcon Crest"...and that

Suzanne just missed becoming a housekeeper having sex with J.R. Ewing

on "Dallas" (with a nod to Governor Schwarzenneger).

And before it's over, Bob's equestrian skills become a source of humor for

his long-legged tall-in-the-saddle co-host.


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#7 "Bionic Woman" meets Van Halen

Length: 34s

Suzanne manages to get Lance Armstrong, Phil Jackson, and Hugh Hefner into

the same conversation, makes her feelings about Ben Affleck pretty

clear and then deftly grills Bob about his "intentions" with Farrah Fawcett...
And Bob digs into his memory bank with details of his "Bionic Woman" scripts, touches upon unexpected backstage experience with David Lee Roth and Van Halen, and pays tribute to character actor Robert Loggia.



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#6 "Six Million Dollar Man" & Farrah Fawcett

Length: 35s

For the New Year, Bob & Suzanne detail how Bob went

from Location Manager at Paramount and Universal to selling

his first story on The Six Million Dollar Man by overcoming

the age-old problem of executive nepotism and...theft.

We hear about life on the set with Lee Majors, and how

Bob just happened to spend a day alone with Farrah Fawcett well before

she ever rached stardom on Charlie's Angels.

Suzanne manages to dish a little Hollywood gossip, but

admits to wearing "Farrah hair" when it was the rage!


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#1 Sunset Strip to Beverly Hills & "Dating Game"

Length: 33s

This debut episode starts with Bob's FBI-agent birthright and takes us through

a childhood spent in Sunset Strip nightclubs where he hung out with

Nat  "King" Cole, sang duets with Sophie Tucker and Johnny Ray, and was

introduced to the joys of Parliament cigarettes...at age six!

Raised with gun-toting West Coast Jewish mobsters as

family role models, Bob reveals the details of youthful encounters with

naked movie stars like Carol Baker and Rock Hudson...and describes his

celebrity-filled school years living just down the street from the movie-star

mansions of Beverly Hills.

Life at Beverly Hills High--where Bob did a good job of "passing" as Jewish--

led to an eye-opening experience with anti-semitism which colors his

attitudes even to this day.

Suzanne gets Bob to reveal how Vietnam-era draft evasion caused him to

change his name...and how repeated appearances on a handful of TV quiz shows

propelled him toward an unusual career choice.

Although he whimped out when he won a date with a Hollywood stripper, 

Bob had a fresh taste of showbiz that he just couldn't shake.


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#2 "The Tonight Show" & "Laugh-In"

Length: 44s

In their second episode, Bob admits that he literally begged his way into

grad school...which proved to be a stroke of brilliance as it led to his first

showbiz job as an NBC "page" in beautiful downtown Burbank.

From ushering old ladies into "Let's Make A Deal" to gigs on "The Tonight Show"

with Johnny Carson and "Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In", Suzanne gets Bob

to talk about first encounters with stars like Goldie Hawn, Sammy Davis, Jr.,

Dean Martin, and Kirk Douglas.

Suzanne reacts to Bob's obnoxious career moves as he jumped a long line of

others waiting for a dream job at Paramount Studios and wound up on the set of

"Mission: Impossible" working with Bruce Geller, Peter Graves, Martin Landau, Leonard Nimoy

and got his first taste of the writer's life with the help of producer Bruce Lansbury.

Suzanne takes Bob from "Mission: Impossible" to "Six Million Dollar Man" and

"Bionic Woman" where he sells his first script without having

the common sense to get an agent.

Suzanne describes how she got her first gig at Universal as a

production secretary who couldn't type a word...and how it eventually

led to her winding up in front of the cameras.

the common senseto get an agent.


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#5 "Mission: Impossible" & "Mannix"

Length: 35s

At Suzanne's prodding, Bob McCullough details his first "on the lot"

gig at Paramount Studios and confesses his never-before-revealed

secrets of life on the set of the original "Mission: Impossible".

They talk about the unique production values, Bruce Geller's

perspective on character develpoment, and how Bob befriended

the writer who had killed his wife with a pair of scissors.

It's a revealing conversation about network-studio conflicts

making early caeer moves, all with the ground-level

view of an up-and-coming Hollywood "gopher".



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#4 Behind the Scenes with Producers Aaron Spelling and Jerry Bruckheimer

Length: 29s

Bob & Suzanne set the direction for future

podcasts with the high points of Bob’s

writing and producing career from his years

with Aaron Spelling to his gig with Jerry Bruckheimer.

Bob shares the secret to longevity in the TV game while

recalling those shows that took his family

on extended overseas adventures.

From turning another failed pilot into an 88-episode hit

(and finding the world’s most expensive hot dogs), to selling

a network pilot based on a 3-year-old’s show idea, to

scouting the South Pacific looking for perfect surf...Bob

touches upon the high points of his long career.

and discusses the value of building credits and generating

relationships in what is really a very “small business”.

Bob and Suzanne also dish about the state of series

television today while foreshadowing great things to

come in future podcasts.



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#3 Writing for TV & Academy Awards

Length: 42s

Suzanne plays the “Latina Power” card, gives her review of today’s

Hollywood Reporter Magazine, does a bit of name-dropping about

their Santa Barbara neighbors, touches upon the years of the Hollywood Blacklist,

and Bob opines about how The Academy Awards seem to overlook the obvious.

Suzanne then takes Bob into the heart of his writing-producing-directing career,

touching upon being laid off from his location manager job at Universal and then

paying dues as “the writer in the closet” with a startup production company

which led him to his first “real” agent.

They discuss early breaks on shows like “BJ & The Bear” and “Sheriff Lobo”

which put Bob’s spec slasher scripts in front of CBS execs who hired him to

add some “spice” to their failed “Vintage Years” pilot.  The concept of nepotism is

touched upon as Suzanne gets the credit for ghost-writing the first season’s

series bible for what became “Falcon Crest” which later propelled Bob

into the waiting arms of Aaron Spelling Productions. 

Suzanne speed-dials Bob’s memories of Brandon Tartikoff, Dick Butkus, Pat Morita, and “Star Trek”.


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